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Moonglow (stride) by BarryK

BarryK 14 October 2009

Here is my attempt at stride vibes.

I recently heard a great version of Moonglow on the radio, with Gary Burton and clarinetist, Eddie Daniels. http://www.amazon.com/Moonglow/dp/B000WM0PLA

This inspired me to learn it. Then Tony's Stride Vibes lesson was brought up again recently and I thought this would be a perfect tune to try and do stride.

Barry

Audio File Downloads
MoonglowStride091014.mp3

Comments

BarryK Thu, 10/15/2009 - 06:06

I knew someone was going to say something about ringing :-(. If I didn't have the tremolo on, I would have let it ring less. I wanted to emphasize the tremolo with sustain, but it was bit too much.

Thanks for posting you version. I'll study it some more.

Barry

Marie-Noëlle Thu, 10/15/2009 - 10:30

Tony Miceli!! This is the rudest stick drop I ever heard! How can you?! This is chocking!

We're listening, it's cool... and suddenly, with no warning...

How dare you?!

- M - The Inquisitor

Marie-Noëlle Thu, 10/15/2009 - 08:58

Barry,

Last time I said your playing had hugely improved, you told me the bass and drum had surely helped thinking about it. But where are they here? I still can hear a very different Barry than last year… even as soloist! ;o)

As for the ringing, in fact it mainly drawn my attention in the intro, but not that much in the rest of the tune (MHO).

Last but not least: the stick drop… Hmm… I know you're quite still a novice in the discipline… May I suggest you to concentrate a bit of you time on that important part of the tune: maybe it had a little lack of… let's say… "consistency"...? (just a friendly advice as ususal)

Cool interpretation anyway! ;o)

- M

BarryK Thu, 10/15/2009 - 10:11

MN,

You have really good ears. I didn't even realize I dropped my sticks until I heard the recording back. You were able to hear that I wasn't concentrating on that part. I was just relieved to get through the tune.

As for not having drums, I did have a sort of a metronome going. I was trying to play along with the tremolo tempo. It's funny that, as the motor warms up, it speeds up. I can't get it slow how I want it (but that's no excuse for my bad sense of rhythm). I need to figure out how to get a digital servo motor on it.

Thanks!
Barry

steve yeager Thu, 10/15/2009 - 15:38

more judicious flutter pedaling will clean this up

slow it down too - and i think it will speak better

man you're making progress on this instrument!

BarryK Thu, 10/15/2009 - 22:16

Thanks for the advice, Steve. Here is a new version with flutter pedaling. My pedal is so noisy. I tried oiling some parts, but it's still noisy. I think that is the reason I never really tried playing with flutter pedaling.

I tried several takes playing with a slower tempo, but by the end, I always sped it up. Do you think mouth noises would help me? Tony, can you give us a lesson on that? ;-)

You might want to lower your volume, there is a harsh stick drop at the end. I was going for the kind that Randy did recently on his stride Giant Steps recording (his stick drop timing was absolutely perfect). I think it mine had a nice full sound, but may not have been appropriate for this tune. In some other takes tonight, I had some drops were at the other end of the spectrum; a bit too whimpy. Still trying to find the right balance.

Barry

BarryK Fri, 10/16/2009 - 06:51

I remember watching the lesson a while back.

In my latest post, do you have any comments on how I did the pedaling?

Thanks,
Barry

tifoo Sun, 10/18/2009 - 07:57

Barry, I am very impressed with that version !
I listened your first version, then tony's comping, then your flutterpedal version.

about the flutter version :
did you use only the left to stride comp, or do you add the right interior sometimes ?

I'd really like to see a video of you playinig that.
That sounds like a major step forward...Wow...

BarryK Sun, 10/18/2009 - 17:05

Thanks, Tifoo. I use mainly the left to stride comp. Here is a quick video I made for you, to show my technique.

Barry

tjaco Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:06

Hey Tifoo!

Those two versions are great!

Barry -> great job on the video and getting tifoo to do this.

Tifoo -> So you transcribed barry's thing and played it too. This is the Sh%T!!

I must say that I dig the slower version more. It just doesn't have that old school stride feeling when you go to fast. Just my thoughts... what do you think? I do think it's good that you did it fast also and you're playing it great!

And what I loved is the octave rolls in your right hand, that sounded good!

Keep it up guys!

TJ

BarryK Mon, 10/19/2009 - 21:07

Yo, Tifoo!

I'm flattered that you transcribed my arrangement, and made it your own. Both of your videos sounded great. Feel free to post the transcription, with the changes I suggested.

I am still working on it. I am thinking of adding a little more harmonic movement in the stride, rather than just repeating double-stops.

Barry

tifoo Tue, 10/20/2009 - 03:17

here is Barry's transcription.

That is a fun transcription to play, Thanks again Barry.

Tj, about versions: I thought stride had to be fast (but I guess I'm wrong) ?

BarryK Tue, 10/20/2009 - 06:47

Tifoo,

Thanks for doing the transcription. I didn't play it yet, but I noticed that measure 9 should go G to B instead of G to G. Similarly 11, G# to B.

Barry

tifoo Tue, 10/20/2009 - 07:03

sorry,sorry

Here is page1 again.

If you have others corrections,send me an email, I'll be off for 2days

:o)

BarryK Thu, 10/27/2011 - 06:17

Measure 8 looks like it was transcribed incorrectly. That Cm6 should be an Am7, voiced as A C E G, followed by chromatic ascending thirds.

Barry

vibraman Tue, 10/20/2009 - 02:38

hey tifoo,

i liked the 2nd version most of it.you got an incredible indepandance e.g the shake in the right hand while playing quarters in the right....i used to practice that a lot.the whole thing sounds great BUT i told you earlier on some other video:

please, ask your plate throwing wife if it´s possible to get the budget for some nice microphones.i mean the sound from the cam is not bad but it would be so much better with some good overhead microphones...i always think that if i hear your videos...which i totally dig.this would make them perfect for me :) just some 200€ would do the job i think!

tifoo Tue, 10/20/2009 - 03:05

Thanks for your comment Tarik,
about microphone : I don't have a good soundcard, so that might be difficult to record properly, even with good mics...and the real problem is that the room is also use by childrens and family sometimes, so I can't do a proper set-up (and I don't want to go back in my basement....please !!)

Will you join in for a Barry-stride version ?

vibraman Tue, 10/20/2009 - 03:21

then you should go for an extra budget and get a zoom h4 or h2 as a recording device...about 200€ so we can hear your family in a better sound quality :)

i would recommend it to you...think it over!

i´m busy with TJ´s tune of the week and "after you´ve gone" at the moment but let´s see if i got the time i will do it.

vibraman Tue, 10/20/2009 - 02:32

hey barry.... this version sounds just beautiful to me. to me it sounds much better with less ringing and the fludder pedal! barry, go for solo now!!!!
tarik

BarryK Tue, 10/20/2009 - 06:49

Thanks, Tarik. I am going to have to transcribe Tifoo's solo, now. :-)

Barry

Philippe Fri, 11/11/2011 - 06:09

Hi Barry, This is my version of your Moonglow arrangement. I've taken a few liberties with it(in the bridge, and in the last A section), by including things that I began to hear while I was working on it. The execution is far from perfect, as I'm a novice with 4 mallets . But precisely, this Moonglow will be a starting point for me. I'm studying Tony's lessons really hard, learning to read music out of a book while playing(the Solo Vibist vol.1, by Thomas A. Brown, is an excellent book for beginners), in other words, doing all the things I should have done in the very beginning. I'll keep on working on Moonglow. I'm not ready to do a solo yet. That will come later, I hope. Cheers for now.
Philippe

Marie-Noëlle Fri, 11/11/2011 - 06:54

Ouais!! Did you use a metronome? I think your time is great and rendition very clear... Loved it! :o)

Philippe Fri, 11/11/2011 - 09:18

Yes Marie, I used a metronome (I had it in my earphones). I'm still new to this style of playing and I couldn't help rushing it. I'm afraid I'll keep on using the metronome until I get good enough to dispense with it. I'm going to be very busy for many months to come, you know. I've got some books, I'm learning to read music, doing basic exercises, studying Tony's lessons on stride vibes etc... It's a lot of work !

Marie-Noëlle Fri, 11/11/2011 - 09:25

Man I'd need it too!! And I think it's a good thing to use it. And... if you feel you need it, at least it means you're aware of it! ;-) I did the same (click in my ear) when recording my first stride attempt recently. At the beginning, even with the metronome I would rush like hell! haha! Ok let's keep it up: Metronome rocks! :o)

Babu Fri, 11/11/2011 - 07:11

Very clear and equilibrated, a pleasure to listen to. :o)

Marie-Noëlle Fri, 11/11/2011 - 07:32

Were you talking about Barry's version or Philippe's recent one? ;-) If so, can you move the text under Phil's comment. I'll delete these ones. Merci! :o)

Babu Fri, 11/11/2011 - 08:12

Sorry, I somewhat messed up ! In fact my comment is valid for both of them, I dig the two versions .
I hope I'm clearer...(and no way to edit a comment after having posted it)
Do what you think is best !

BarryK Fri, 11/11/2011 - 09:02

Thanks for your comment, Babu. I appreciate it.

Did you have a chance to look at all of the previous replies? My original post had too much ringing. I fixed it in subsequent replies, below.

Thanks!
Barry

Philippe Fri, 11/11/2011 - 09:28

Salut Babu, I'm really through with Band in a Box. I have in mind to really apply myself and get that "stride" style off the ground. It will mean several months' hard work, I'm sure. But this is what keep you young. I want to listen to Thelonius Monk's stride (Just a Gigolo etc.) and see if I can get something out of that. Also Dave Mc Kenna, a great "modern stride" player. I have received David Friedman's book, but I'm studying something more basic to begin with. I have everything to learn. See you ! Philippe

tonymiceli Fri, 11/11/2011 - 16:41

great job barry!

did you mess around with the pedal? like putting it up and down on every beat?? are you doing that? sometimes it sounds like it. then maybe make some more space in between the notes. what do you think.

anyway, that sounded good and even my wife who was upstairs said, 'what tune is that that your playing'?

BarryK Fri, 11/11/2011 - 19:12

Thanks, Tony. That post is actually over two years ago.
See below for my updated version after Steve Yeager's comments.
http://www.vibesworkshop.com/audio/moonglow-stride-barryk/barryk/101409…

An here is your response:
http://www.vibesworkshop.com/audio/moonglow-stride-barryk/barryk/101409…
;-)

I should work it up again. I think in addition to flutter pedal, I should try dead stroking the LH double-stops. AND, I should use a metronome.

Barry

tonymiceli Fri, 11/11/2011 - 22:33

i saw that after i posted! man there's a lot of stuff on this site! jeeeez!!!!

BarryK Sun, 10/25/2020 - 13:41

We were talking about Stride Vibes at the Vibes Coffee House today and played this post.

Barry

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